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6And ye shall hear of wars and rumours of wars: see that ye be not troubled: for all these things must come to pass, but the end is not yet.
7For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom: and there shall be famines, and pestilences, and earthquakes, in divers places.
8All these are the beginning of sorrows.
9Then shall they deliver you up to be afflicted, and shall kill you: and ye shall be hated of all nations for my name’s sake.
10And then shall many be offended, and shall betray one another, and shall hate one another.
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this is happening now…Jesus is coming be ready be obidient , pleace pray for everyone you know…even the jesuits that are fullfiling Gods prphesy!
God bless pardon my english!
Oh yeah….this is the stuff. Mathew 24. I always thought that “rumors of wars” could not be applied to the world until the advent of modern technology. I heard a rumor that Russia had reached an advanced level of weather control and was responsible for Katrina. Until we reached weather control ability, there could be no rumors of wars. “rumors of wars” could also apply to the whole concept of a “cold war” which again is a modern day “rumor” thing. Peter Goodgame said it best: “In these end times”
Here’s the distinction I was talking about between Matthew 24 and Luke 21:
Matt 24:
8All these are the beginning of sorrows.
9Then shall they deliver you up to be afflicted,
Notice, Then = after the birth pains.
While in Luke:
[11] There will be great earthquakes, and in various places famines and pestilences. And there will be terrors and great signs from heaven. [12] But before all this they will lay their hands on you and persecute you
Notice Jesus says “But BEFORE all of this.” Hence the Luke account is about Jerusalem in 70 AD from this point on.
Matthew’s is after the birth pains hence future. This where Preterists make a mistake of assuming Matt. 24 and Luke 21 are the same. They are not.
Oh ok, that’s what it was.
The sad thing is that I remember Missler saying this, but I couldnt remember the details of it.
I have a hard time following the logic though, because if you compare the two passages side by side you will see that the only difference is that Luke doesnt put in all the persecution stuff before the signs from heavens stuff…so basically he is saying the exact same thing…do you follow me? its like Matthew says “1, 2, 3, 4, 5” and Luke says “1, 2, 3, 5 (and before this 5 there is a 4) “Same thing. To me Missler would be building entirely too much doctrine out of that ‘before’.
Thank you guys for sharing your hard work and studying!
And what’s that song in the beginning? It’s really nice.
Thanks Christine! its JJ Heller, “Back Home” http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qj32UR-eC-Q
Oops! wrong song, this one is Ryan Delmore “Sing Like Mary Sang”
Kingdom of God against Kingdom of Satan,that is why you see signs from heaven.Rev 12:7
Unfortunately most modern Biblical teachers need to go back to the basics.
To fully understand scripture you must interpret it with Scripture. This is exegesis 101. Ask the following questions.
1.Who wrote/spoke the passage and to whom was it addressed?
2.What does the passage say?
3.Are there any words or phrases in the passage that need to be examined?
4.What is the immediate context?
5.What is the broader context in the chapter and book?
6.What are the related verses to the passage’s subject and how do they affect the understanding of this passage?
7.What is the historical and cultural background?
8. What do these same words or phases mean in the Old Testament?
The last question alone disqualifies Matthew 24 1:36 from future fulfillment.
It is simply bad exegesis to read the modern headlines and see the Olivet Discourse as being fulfilled NOW.
The danger here is that Christians everywhere have given up! They have been misled to believe that the last Generation is NOW! What is the use pursuing the “Great Commission”? After all the Anti-Christ is going to become a world ruler, but I’ll be raptured in the “Secret” coming of Jesus.
What makes dispensationalist so insidious it that it is a Novel Christian Belief. First developed in the Mid 1800’s. I wonder why almost 2000 years of Christian scholarship never thought of it.
Christians everywhere can stop this madness. Start reading the bible for all its worth, the correct way.